Comments on: Cause and Effect With Political Activism http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/ Yet Another Gaijin In Japan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: differentnick http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/#comment-1298 differentnick Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:01:01 +0000 http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/#comment-1298 Having recent seen a disabled Tibetan woman having to be protected by 4 armed police men whilst offering a singular demonstration against the torture and suffering of her own people by Han Chinese, who passed her by chanting "death to traitors", my feelings are somewhat different from yours as to who are the heroes and who are the "asses". What is the point of quibbling over autonomy versus independence when you are a native tribe suffering cultural cleansing and a deliberate policy of apartheid shored up by forced and sponsored migration by FAR MORE economically dominant invasive tribe whose interest, and let's be frank about this, are not social work but environmental exploitation for the sake of capital rewards? I think your grasp of the issues is so wide off the mark that it is exhausting thinking about how to respond to them ... a) since when have Western leaders been in the driving seat of concerns over human rights issues anywhere? and B) how do you equate with the prejudicial legal, social and financial policies severely discriminating against native Tibetans in their own land and for immigrant newcomer Han with the magnificence of "preserving autonomy for Tibet"? And why do you think the CPC is pouring immigrants into the region in the first place? Having recent seen a disabled Tibetan woman having to be protected by 4 armed police men whilst offering a singular demonstration against the torture and suffering of her own people by Han Chinese, who passed her by chanting “death to traitors”, my feelings are somewhat different from yours as to who are the heroes and who are the “asses”.

What is the point of quibbling over autonomy versus independence when you are a native tribe suffering cultural cleansing and a deliberate policy of apartheid shored up by forced and sponsored migration by FAR MORE economically dominant invasive tribe whose interest, and let’s be frank about this, are not social work but environmental exploitation for the sake of capital rewards?

I think your grasp of the issues is so wide off the mark that it is exhausting thinking about how to respond to them … a) since when have Western leaders been in the driving seat of concerns over human rights issues anywhere? and B) how do you equate with the prejudicial legal, social and financial policies severely discriminating against native Tibetans in their own land and for immigrant newcomer Han with the magnificence of “preserving autonomy for Tibet”?

And why do you think the CPC is pouring immigrants into the region in the first place?

]]> By: Jason http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/#comment-1297 Jason Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:35:20 +0000 http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/#comment-1297 Religious freedom is important, and there are some concerns with China's lack of regard to certain religious groups. That said, with a little rational diplomacy, things can be worked out. The heated actions that we see a few testosterone-maddened individuals perform on TV should in no way be condoned by the nations hosting the torch relays. Alas, I'm forced to digress on the matter, as I'm not yet a world leader :???: Don't worry about disagreeing with Gary. Several people disagree with him all the time, and there are many things that he says which seem to come from way out in left field. I'm just happy that I could actually write something that would allow him to voice his position on the matter, as previous attempts to start a dialogue on here have failed. Curse that IRC and its instantaneous responses! :roll: Religious freedom is important, and there are some concerns with China’s lack of regard to certain religious groups. That said, with a little rational diplomacy, things can be worked out. The heated actions that we see a few testosterone-maddened individuals perform on TV should in no way be condoned by the nations hosting the torch relays.

Alas, I’m forced to digress on the matter, as I’m not yet a world leader :???:
Don’t worry about disagreeing with Gary. Several people disagree with him all the time, and there are many things that he says which seem to come from way out in left field. I’m just happy that I could actually write something that would allow him to voice his position on the matter, as previous attempts to start a dialogue on here have failed.

Curse that IRC and its instantaneous responses! :roll:

]]> By: Jon http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/#comment-1296 Jon Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:27:52 +0000 http://www.j2fi.net/2008/04/25/cause-and-effect-with-political-activism/#comment-1296 I do agree that many people in the West are ignorant of the situation regarding Tibet. They throw out the "free Tibet" statement (like I have done once before) without realizing that the Dalai Lama does not advocate independence, he advocates working with the Chinese government for more autonomy for Tibet. The Dalai Lama does advocate for more religious freedom for Tibetans so in that sense the "Free Tibet" statement does apply. Please note that I do have strong disagreements to one of the commenters on your previous post and I replied to them. I do respect his opinion but I just don't agree with what he says. I do agree that many people in the West are ignorant of the situation regarding Tibet. They throw out the “free Tibet” statement (like I have done once before) without realizing that the Dalai Lama does not advocate independence, he advocates working with the Chinese government for more autonomy for Tibet.

The Dalai Lama does advocate for more religious freedom for Tibetans so in that sense the “Free Tibet” statement does apply.

Please note that I do have strong disagreements to one of the commenters on your previous post and I replied to them. I do respect his opinion but I just don’t agree with what he says.

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